Grateful Dead Live at Capitol Theater on 1970-11-08
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
This does not exist in the vault so this is the best that's out there...
This was drawn from at least three audience sources, Primarily Ken Lee's (MC>C>D>CD) and Marty Weinberg's (MR>C>D>CD). Some of these sources have been mixed up a bit over the years so I am not too worried about where each minute came from, I just tried to pick the best sounding parts and make them a little better...
Acoustic Set - Primarily Lee's with patches
NRPS Set - Weinberg's - No patch source available.
First Electric Disc - Weinberg's with patches.
Second Electric Disc - Through Dancin' is Weinberg, rest Lee with patches (The second half of Weinberg had bad bass saturation...)
This show required a good bit of work. All sources needed a Continuous Noise filter to take the edge off the hiss. Each source was individually equalized to bring out the best in them. Gain adjustments were made to bring everything in balance and about 200-300 loud handclaps were removed from various parts. A lot of miscellaneous pops and gliches were cleaned up. All patches were matched as best I could to the rest of the songs sonic qualities. All editing done with Diamond Cut DC5 software.
- 2004-05-30 20:00:58
- Port Chester, NY
- Taped by
- Ken Lee and Marty Weinberg
- Transferred by
- The Wizard
- Capitol Theater
Subject: Thanks and I'm in Awe
Subject: Hey Wally Gator
Subject: the real deal
Subject: incredible 1970 bliss!
unfortunately the sound on both copies leaves something to be desired for me. can you imagine if there was a soundboard of this show!?
Subject: Glad to have been there.
Glad to hear the our taper descendants are still carrying the torch,(and mikes, media, batteries).
When Judy and I realized how much MAGIC was going down every night, only to evaporate as our ears stopped ringing, we made the decision to record these otherworldly experiences as best we could.
So we began at the end of the 60s and caught what we could for posterity, never dreaming of the web and all the people that would end up listening to our work for, well, forever, I hope. As long as we don't totally screw up the planet.
We're still out there, going to shows and keeping the light glowing. "Unable to walk, I will crawl, crawl, crawl..." Well, with a broken back, I'm not shaking my bones the way I could, but I'm still smiling.
BTW, we've got hundreds of tapes to go, let's hope the New Year sees some more light shed on the past.
Meanwhile head over here and check out the full tape that Judy and I made of that night.
Subject: Marty Weinberg speaks ... he speaks the truth
If so: Hat's off to you, buddy!
Outside of the early 69 shows -- these Portchester's are my VERY FAVORITES. I'm more partial to 11/5 and 11/6 -- but as you say, the salient point is: 11/8 contains the "Dew of Dews."
None better. Ever.
This self-proclaimed Dead Head of impeccable taste agrees with you!
I remember back in the 70's listening to a Grateful Dead tape of a PigPen and Janis Joplin duet singing Lovelight. Most of my tapes back then were either Fillmore East or Port Chester. Does anyone know the date of that show so I can look it up on the Archives? Absolutely love the archives!!!
Subject: Download the other version
The other copy of this show sounds much better!
Subject: How can this murky sound rate 4+ stars?
I took it at face value, 4-1/2 stars, and DL'd the show, then as tracks were being converted to wav., I listened and, hey, this show sounds HORRIBLE. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1970 is a crucial year and this is a great show, but performance-wise this may be 4-5 stars, audio-wise it is 1-2! Go listen 9-20 show at the Fillmore East for decent sound. This is just bad, bad, bad.
So, crucial to the legacy blah, blah, blah and all that, this baby gets three stars from me -- and THAT'S BEING VERY GENEROUS!
Subject: The New Ken Lee version is much better
My conclusion is that the March 2005 version of the Ken/Judy Lee tape is unquestionably better, and is likely to be as good as this show ever gets in terms of sound quality (failing access to a Tardis :D ).
I'm a professionally trained studio engineer, and the first thing that I look for in comparing these sorts of recordings is the sound of the hall in the recording. Not the instruments, the hall. After an instrument sounds, whenever there is a brief space (silence), in a good recording, you can hear faint reflections - the sound of the hall. Millions of dollars are spent in designing halls to get that sound just right.
Anyway, to get back to the point, this Owens version has very little hall sound at all. It has less sound of the audience, applause, etc. Most of that has been lost.
The new correction of the restoration of the Ken/Judy Lee tape, which can be found here at Archive.org at:
upgrade version from March 2005 .
has good hall sound, it has good audience sound, applause sounds natural.
But you don't have to take my word for it - there is an easy way to compare yourself.
In the new version at the above link, the third track of that version is "I Know You Rider (acoustic)". However, they were missing the part after 03:52 - so they used *this Owens version* for the missing last minute. Go there and stream the VBR M3U link, and listen to the third track. I guarantee that at 03:52, you will say "Bleh !". That is what you would have gotten had you downloaded this version instead ! Be thankful that it is now after March 2005, and you can listen to the better version.
By the way, what was done on that version - going back to the original master tape, baking and re-shelling and transferring to digital with a good A-to-D, is going to make far more of a difference than all the work done on earlier versions that started with already degraded sources.
So, I hope that I've helped some 'heads get the best version of this fine show - enjoy !
Subject: too bad about the sound!
Subject: a great night
If I had only known the whole world would be listening...
the dew of dews,
imho it defines the time
Subject: Scariest Dark Star?
4 Solid Stars.
If there is a weakness to the show, it's the sound. It starts off well, but during Dancin' the sources change to several (far muddier) sources that are nowhere close to the first AUD. But you'd be a fool to let the sound quality get in the way of your experience of this fine '70 show.
P.S. Nice xylophone from Mickey (?) during Dark Star.
Subject: Star Chimes
You'll want to listen to it on good headphones. Due to ambient crowd noise start your d/l at Truckin'. Be patient. Dark Star's chimes are crystal clear. Amazing. Be blessed with the rest while dancin' in the beautiful & groovey stars that will not fade away. For those who know...
Subject: xmas show
Subject: Soundboards would be the Holy Grail
Subject: Best copy I've ever heard of this...
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